Comments on: Hydroponics Secrets 47 – LED Grow Lights & Growth Chambers http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:49:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Fuard http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-19425 Fuard Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:12:23 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-19425 Yo! Hey John....same here on the Pro from Sunshine Systems. I currently run 5 Pro's in a 14x6 and I have amazing results as well. I love when people bash leds and have never used them....lol. My last grow of Lemon Haze turned out amazing. Growth and flowering was steady throughout and ended up with close to 70 grams per plant (finishing at 3.5 feet) The grow before that was LA Confidential and Blue Moonshine.....again.....stellar results. Like John said.....there may be additional time to reach the "Holy HPS Results" but the end results are tighter flowers with incredible potency. I have had super fast flowering times when running any 'purps" or "blueberry" strains. Currently Im growing 60 Lowryder x Bubblegum and cant wait to see the end results. Last Lowryder grow I did I was able to get 34 grams per plant....not bad for a finish height of 18 to 22 inches....:) Sunshine Systems staff is very down to earth and extremely helpful with any calls I send their way and they KNOW lighting. If you want a trouble free, heat free, police free grow with beautiful results..... Yo!

Hey John….same here on the Pro from Sunshine Systems. I currently run 5 Pro’s in a 14×6 and I have amazing results as well. I love when people bash leds and have never used them….lol.
My last grow of Lemon Haze turned out amazing. Growth and flowering was steady throughout and ended up with close to 70 grams per plant (finishing at 3.5 feet) The grow before that was LA Confidential and Blue Moonshine…..again…..stellar results. Like John said…..there may be additional time to reach the “Holy HPS Results” but the end results are tighter flowers with incredible potency. I have had super fast flowering times when running any ‘purps” or “blueberry” strains.
Currently Im growing 60 Lowryder x Bubblegum and cant wait to see the end results. Last Lowryder grow I did I was able to get 34 grams per plant….not bad for a finish height of 18 to 22 inches….:)
Sunshine Systems staff is very down to earth and extremely helpful with any calls I send their way and they KNOW lighting.
If you want a trouble free, heat free, police free grow with beautiful results…..

]]> By: Randy http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-2341 Randy Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:51:16 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-2341 Does anybody have any info on how to start clones off in Oasis or Agrifoam? New product called Steady gro out now - would like to know if anyone has tried their growing system...Foam has always worked well, just wanted to know if the Yellow steady Gro foam is better than the brown??? Does anybody have any info on how to start clones off in Oasis or Agrifoam? New product called Steady gro out now – would like to know if anyone has tried their growing system…Foam has always worked well, just wanted to know if the Yellow steady Gro foam is better than the brown???

]]> By: oldhippy http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-2184 oldhippy Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:07:20 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-2184 I understand the reluctance of people to accept Led Grow lights, the early ones did not work well, the new products have the right frequencies and ratios to produce nearly as well as HID at one third the energy, this is with two 159W units per 4X8 table, if y9u want to outperform use three per table. Graphs are available to show absorption and production of the newest lighting at http://www.led4growth.com Thanks for being open-minded! OldHippy I understand the reluctance of people to accept Led Grow lights, the early ones did not work well, the new products have the right frequencies and ratios to produce nearly as well as HID at one third the energy, this is with two 159W units per 4X8 table, if y9u want to outperform use three per table.

Graphs are available to show absorption and production of the newest lighting at http://www.led4growth.com

Thanks for being open-minded!

OldHippy

]]> By: Mylar http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-2084 Mylar Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:06:19 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-2084 I'm still unconviced by LED's for good harvests....Nice Video though. I’m still unconviced by LED’s for good harvests….Nice Video though.

]]> By: Carlos Gacia~Garcia http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-1099 Carlos Gacia~Garcia Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:26:03 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-1099 Hey love your info and speeches, way cool and wise! may I ask what the outcome was on the plant? I am currently growing with the same light features and am trying to compare harvest. Thanks, please keep up the great work! Carlos Hey love your info and speeches, way cool and wise! may I ask what the outcome was on the plant? I am currently growing with the same light features and am trying to compare harvest.

Thanks, please keep up the great work!
Carlos

]]> By: Ron http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-232 Ron Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:50:51 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-232 Erik, I just watched Big Mikes post on phosphorus, so that seems to answer Q3 of my recent post. Thanks for bringing the truth to the common grower. Ron Erik,
I just watched Big Mikes post on phosphorus, so that seems to answer Q3 of my recent post.
Thanks for bringing the truth to the common grower.
Ron

]]> By: Ron http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-229 Ron Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:33:57 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-229 Erik, I have several questions regarding foliar feeding. I have used Advanced nutrients VHO, Jumpstart and colossal bud blast with good results. I use these products with a product from one of your competetors called penetrator which claims to have a university study to back it's claims that other so called "wetting agents" cannot compete with. I have used several of your other competetors wetting agents and seen firsthand that they are nowhere near as effective. I may be mistaken, but I believe that penetrator is a ionic surfactant. I notice that the Advanced nutrients products,(Wet betty, and wb organic), are non ionic. I have not tried your products, basically because I have seen that penetrator is far superior to other wetting agents, (Dutch masters website calls it a delivery agent, I suppose to indicate that it works differently and infer that it is superior). Another difference is that their product is intended for use with the lights on, and I have not had any issues using this method, in fact, I do not want to leave my plants wet when the lights go off, (which is what is recommended by your products). I use your products almost exclusively, and I would be willing to try Wet Betty if I can be convinced it can do at least as good a job. My questions are as follows: 1. What is the difference between an ionic surfactant and a non ionic surfactant. 2. Honestly, can your product equal or better DM's penetrator/penetrator golds ability to deliver nutrients to the plant through foliar feeding? Are there any studies to show your product is effective? 3. I have also noticed that DM has a foliar spray for flowering which contains P/K, while your Bud blaster contains only nitrogen, which seems confusing as a flowering enhancer. Perhaps you could explain, I'd really like to understand how adding nitrogen through foliar feeding will increase flower size/potency/aroma. There are many other companys which have foliar formulas for flowering, and they are all different. I hate to say this but I like GH's floralicious plus as it has kelp, humic acid as well as many other nutes. 4. Not to get off topic, but DM has another product called liquid light. I have not used this product, but I could see this as a product which might work well with the LED light setup. I know this isn't your product, and you have nothing whichs claims to do the things which this product does, but what are your thoughts about such a product? Erik,
I have several questions regarding foliar feeding. I have used Advanced nutrients VHO, Jumpstart and colossal bud blast with good results. I use these products with a product from one of your competetors called penetrator which claims to have a university study to back it’s claims that other so called “wetting agents” cannot compete with. I have used several of your other competetors wetting agents and seen firsthand that they are nowhere near as effective. I may be mistaken, but I believe that penetrator is a ionic surfactant. I notice that the Advanced nutrients products,(Wet betty, and wb organic), are non ionic. I have not tried your products, basically because I have seen that penetrator is far superior to other wetting agents, (Dutch masters website calls it a delivery agent, I suppose to indicate that it works differently and infer that it is superior). Another difference is that their product is intended for use with the lights on, and I have not had any issues using this method, in fact, I do not want to leave my plants wet when the lights go off, (which is what is recommended by your products). I use your products almost exclusively, and I would be willing to try Wet Betty if I can be convinced it can do at least as good a job.
My questions are as follows:
1. What is the difference between an ionic surfactant and a non ionic surfactant.
2. Honestly, can your product equal or better DM’s penetrator/penetrator golds ability to deliver nutrients to the plant through foliar feeding? Are there any studies to show your product is effective?
3. I have also noticed that DM has a foliar spray for flowering which contains P/K, while your Bud blaster contains only nitrogen, which seems confusing as a flowering enhancer. Perhaps you could explain, I’d really like to understand how adding nitrogen through foliar feeding will increase flower size/potency/aroma. There are many other companys which have foliar formulas for flowering, and they are all different. I hate to say this but I like GH’s floralicious plus as it has kelp, humic acid as well as many other nutes.
4. Not to get off topic, but DM has another product called liquid light. I have not used this product, but I could see this as a product which might work well with the LED light setup. I know this isn’t your product, and you have nothing whichs claims to do the things which this product does, but what are your thoughts about such a product?

]]> By: D. http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-189 D. Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:19:44 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-189 Just bought the Procyion 100. I grow 9 plants in a 4x4 tent. According to my math, this led better be enough light!!! Got another tent with a 600hps. Time will tell. Sounds like im gonna have to drop my ppm drasticly. hope I dont burn these plant up. Just bought the Procyion 100. I grow 9 plants in a 4×4 tent. According to my math, this led better be enough light!!! Got another tent with a 600hps. Time will tell. Sounds like im gonna have to drop my ppm drasticly. hope I dont burn these plant up.

]]> By: Lee Carson http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-158 Lee Carson Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:23:00 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-158 Great video - but how may I take advantage of this system approach in a much larger area? I have set aside a 10' X 12' grow room and a 12' X 16' bloom room. Can you suggest a maxed outlayout? I am looking at the pff-800 Haight units - Also where can some of the components be purchased you mention? i.e; the reflective materials for floor, walls and ceiling. Also, what you you recommend for the Hydro system to use for a larger grow and bloom area? Appreciate all the help I can get - 1st timer. Thanks, Lee Great video – but how may I take advantage of this system approach in a much larger area? I have set aside a 10′ X 12′ grow room and a 12′ X 16′ bloom room. Can you suggest a maxed outlayout? I am looking at the pff-800 Haight units – Also where can some of the components be purchased you mention? i.e; the reflective materials for floor, walls and ceiling. Also, what you you recommend for the Hydro system to use for a larger grow and bloom area? Appreciate all the help I can get – 1st timer.
Thanks, Lee

]]> By: kgb http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/hydroponics-secrets/hydroponics-secrets-47-led-grow-lights-growth-chambers/comment-page-1#comment-156 kgb Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:26:50 +0000 http://www.growersunderground.com/blog/?p=247#comment-156 LEDs are a joke! they are NOT ready to produce good, heavy harvests. Let's see the FINAL product! I'd bet my Sour Diesel that it's teeny tiny.... LEDs are a joke! they are NOT ready to produce good, heavy harvests. Let’s see the FINAL product! I’d bet my Sour Diesel that it’s teeny tiny….

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